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Great Goal Line Clearance Walton Casuals


Goal line clearance

Met Police 7 Cray Wanderers 1


A rather one-sided Ryman premier game where the home side were 5-0 up at half time and the second half became damage limitation from Cray.

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Football at Met Police Football Ground East Molesey


Met Police play their football in the Ryman Premier league and since their promotion from Ryman south a few seasons ago have been solid performers and have sometimes even threatened to reach the play-offs.  Crowds are not massive and generally around 100-150. The ground however is one of the best in the Ryman League. You can see a whole series of photos on my website http://www.footballgroundz.co.uk but for those unfamiliar here are a few shots from yesterday.

What made me laugh a little was the guy who looks like he is trying to escape from the ground! Maybe he was a Cray fan as they lost 7-1

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Tooting 0 Sittingbourne 0


Decent game and end to end despite what the score suggests. The pitch was in extremely good condition and judging by the water being pumped out into the car park and hence into the drains, there is a good under pitch drainage system. Shame only 200 turned up to watch.

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Carshalton 0 Cray 2


Bottom of the table clash played on a muddy pitch but at least played. Game was generally scrappy but hard fought. Carshalton’s young side let their heads go down after conceding and never really got back into the game. Despite that many promising things. A solid keeper and decent defence.There was a 10 minute spell when it seemed the rain was so bad that the referee might take the players off, but that never happened.

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Football Ticket Prices Fall and Potentially Football is Free now in 2014


Going to football games is not a cheap hobby. Let me give you an example. A ticket for an away Brentford fan at Peterborough on New Years day costs £25 if bought in advance and £28 on the day. This is for a standard league 1 game. It is good to see a few initiatives from football clubs to overcome this and potentially help themselves too. Lets not forget that ticket revenue is only one source of income, sales of items from club shops, burgers and programmes also contribute. At a recent home game Brentford in league 1 took around £11,500 in catering income alone, and let me tell you their catering is no Fat Duck.  Lets examine a few of the good guys:

  1. In 2013 Brentford had a ” pay what you want” game. The deal was simply you choose what you pay and anything over 5£ for the ticket was donated to a sports charity. The only thing asked was that the ticket was bought in advance. They also had a similar venture in 2012 however sadly on that day the game was postponed due to adverse weather.
  2. In 2014 on February 3rd, the game between Hastings v Walton and Hersham in Ryman South , is a ” choose your own admission fee” game. The rationale here is that the game was previously abandoned after 61 minutes and this now has to be replayed. The only costs that Hastings are aiming to recover are the travelling costs for the away club ( fair enough) and the match officials. All other monies will be donated to St Michaels Hospice. A great and sensible initiative . Any locals who do not normally watch Ryman league football should come on down and give it a try, potentially at zero/little cost.
  3. As a season ticket holder at Brentford we have a great offer for all season ticket holders to be able to purchase up to 4 tickets each for £5 for the home game versus Port Vale on Jan 11th. They must be bought in advance and not available on the day. Yet another piece of good marketing and good common sense from Mark Devlin and the team at Brentford.January is a fiscally challenging month for most and initiatives like these do really help.
  4. In 2014 on Jan 4th Basingstoke v Tonbridge Angels in Conference South (Skrill South) is essentially pay what you want minimum £1. On the excellent club website, Sarah Parsons explains“‘This is a gesture to the whole town and outlying districts, we are giving something back to the community by allowing people to come to the match for a price which they decide. We know that January can be tough on family budgets so come to the football match and spend the day with us, and in the clubhouse afterwards. We really want to open our doors for people to come and see us, old fans and new fans, everybody is welcome. Maybe family, friends or workmates of existing fans have always been shy to come along in the past. We have the exciting prospect of a new ground in the pipeline but why not come along and start supporting your local football team now? We know many will still support the likes of Arsenal & Chelsea in the big Premiership matches, that’s fine, but maybe if people came along to see football at this level they may be pleasantly surprised. Ultimately the Town’s football team will be what we as citizens of the Town make it. We have to set a £1 minimum entrence fee due to rules but hopefully people will give us more as every penny helps a small club like ours to grow to become something that the whole Borough can be proud of in future. Tonbridge Angels are a good side in our league and we anticipate a good competitve league match. Our team currently sit in or very close to the league play off positions so it would be great if as many people as possible came through the gates to roar their Town on and hopefully towards victory on the day and ultimately promotion to the Conference National league at the end of this season “This is an initiative that should be supported and encouraged.   www.basingstoketown.net/the-club/town-announce-happy-new-year-day/. Lets us hope that more clubs will go down this route. Nonleague football is a great game and often skill and excitement levels are equal to those in some of the lower leagues. The catering is undeniably better than at league clubs!Image-620x350

Walton and Hersham 1 Ramsgate 1


By chance the second time in a few weeks that I have seen  Ramsgate play. A decent enough game played in a low atmosphere ground with a crowd of 100 in attendance. The ground is essentially one sided now with the condemning of the main terrace stand. Walton have had a mixed start to the season under their new manager Steve Baker and on the evidence of yesterday they are a work in progress but going in the right direction. They played good football and generally were entertaining. Ramsgate played a lot more of the physical stuff and a little less of the football, but nevertheless a decent team.  The game got off to a bizarre start as firstly kick off was delayed by 45 minutes due to a major M25 accident. In the second minute Ramsgate had their full-back carried off with what looked like ligament issues. In the fith minute Ramsgate had their number 11 sent off, maybe harshly. Not long after Ramsgate scored and although Walton chased the game it was not until the 80th minute that Walton equalised with a new header from their impressive number 9, Will  Turl. He also had the opportunity to score again in the final minutes with an identical move and header but fell just short.  Interesting aspects of the game? The referee made any number of errors, do not blame him for that, but why not at least consult with the linesman?  The Ramsgate goalkeeper, although competent certainly had eaten some if not all of the pies.  All in all end to end stuff and at this level a highly entertaining game.

Something for real football fans to read and mull over the implications for many non-league clubs

Something for real football fans to read and mull over the implications for many non-league clubs

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Disallowed Walton goal.Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Disallowed Walton goal.Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe. Will Turl

Walton V Ramsgate. Copyright Chris Bushe. Will Turl

Stompond Lane. The Home of Walton and Hersham FC


Stompond lane has been the home of Walton and Hersham, who now play in the Ryman South division, ever since I began watching the club almost 50 years ago.  There have been some famous moments. Walton have played FA Cup first round games here in front of thousands of spectators including against Exeter and Brighton, managed then by Brian Clough. Walton also won the Amateur cup in 1973. Things however have been declining since then almost consistently. Far from being one of the best non-league clubs they are now one of the smallest in crowd terms at their level and things may get even worse. The council plan to redevelop Stompond Lane and force Walton and Hersham to share with their neighbours, also in Ryman South, Walton Casuals.  This plan has not been met with joy by either club however statements only  a week ago suggest that this plan to redevelop Stompond Lane is becoming fairly final.

I do not know enough to really make an informed decision here however one can see a number of aspects that make some sense. The crowd base of both clubs is around 100 each and does this warrant two individual football grounds in Walton? The population of Walton, which is where the club is based, a few miles from Hersham, in 2011 was 24,137.  Neither ground is perfect, although each has character and reasonable parking.  Yesterday I visited to see Walton play Ramsgate.  The crowd was 102. Down at Walton Casuals yesterday the crowd was 163 boosted somewhat by the good start Casuals have had to the season where they top the league.  What is currently proposed is that the two clubs share Walton Casuals ground. What might equally be proposed is that these two clubs if this happens might be candidates to merge in the future. Should either of these things happen?

  1. Stompond Lane is becoming very run down. The whole ground, and I love this ground, is becoming almost untenable. The clubhouse looks sad and jaded and does not invite visitations. The main stand has a huge number of seats missing, plastic bucket seats, that are attached to wooden benches. Many have been removed.
  2. The stand opposite the main stand had warnings yesterday that it could not be used. When this is combined with the fact that no-one stands behind the goals, as the pitch has a running track around it, meaning that behind the goal is almost placing spectators in the centre of the town, the net effect is that this is now a one sided ground with little or even zero atmosphere.
  3. The council have recently introduced parking restrictions on Stompond lane, meaning that 2 hours is the maximum one may park before being fined some hideous amount. Realistically most fans spend nearer 3 hours at each game. This means that parking is now effectively limited to the club’s car park, which is ample and fine for the kind of recent crowds, but gives little hope that the crowd base if ever improved would have anywhere to park.
  4. Should the clubs ever consider amalgamation, they would concieve a club that had a fan base at lowest of around 200 and potentially more like 250-300. This is moving towards the size needed for Ryman Premier football. Although Walton Casuals sit top of the league, should they get promoted one wonders whether things will be in any way successful or lead to an immediate return to this level.  The clubs might consider Inverness, who before joining the Scottish football league had three separate clubs. They all combined and have risen as of yesterday to actually top the Scottish Premiership. Maybe this kind of success might not happen in Walton but maybe also it should be considered. Who should vote on this? Certainly not myself, a visitor now maybe 2-3 times a season, but the 263 fans who do come week in and week out.

On my football grounds website I have many photographs of Stompond Lane and should the club move I shall add many more http://www.footballgroundz.co.uk

A good report on recent matters can also be found here

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/local-news/new-plans-submitted-stompond-lane-5908373

A few here however just to introduce the novice to the ground that is and was Stompond Lane.

Stompond Lane. Copyright. Chris Bushe

Stompond Lane. Copyright. Chris Bushe

Stompond Lane. Copyright. Chris Bushe

Stompond Lane. Copyright. Chris Bushe

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Stompond Lane. Copyright. Chris Bushe

Stompond Lane. Copyright. Chris Bushe

 

 

Carshalton 1 Billericay Town 0


An entertaining Ryman premier league game that saw Carshalton win their first home game of the season. the reality of the game was that in the first half Carshalton should have been at least 3-0 up and that in the second half Billericay should have scored. That they did not says much about the staunch defending from Carshalton combined with excellent usage of the substitutes. This is a young Carshalton team and they will improve.  From the photos I leave it you to count the number of impressive kung-fu moves in the penalty area and in the whole series of photos there were plenty of shirt pulling episodes, all missed by the referee and his team.  Carshalton is friendly place to watch football and the football played yesterday was actually exceptional at this standard by both teams.  Good movement off the ball, intelligent running and some decent tacking too.  Players who really impressed yesterday included Kieran Woodley, number 11 who scored a decent goal and tommy Bradford number 7 who never stopped running all afternoon.  Maybe the oddest thing though is that man of the match would have to go to the Billericay goalkeeper Billy Lumley. Great saves throughout.  Game stayed interesting right until the end when Ricky Sappleton was sent off for two yellow cards around 10 seconds before fulltime.

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Tooting and Mitcham 3 Ramsgate 4


A truly great game of football marred by the broken leg of Luke Wheatley.  No point giving you a report but here are the photos. Enjoy.

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Ramsgate First goal versus Tooting

Ramsgate First goal versus Tooting

Sad moment when Luke Wheatley broke his leg versus Tooting

Sad moment when Luke Wheatley broke his leg versus Tooting

Sad moment when Luke Wheatley broke his leg versus Tooting

Sad moment when Luke Wheatley broke his leg versus Tooting

Another Ramsgate Goal

Another Ramsgate Goal

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